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We're representing FSIC, the Flying Saucer Investigating Committee of Akron.

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This is Chuck Mackison and I'm Larry Moyers and would you give me your name?

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Your Yost.

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Your age?

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32.

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32.

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You're a place for employment.

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Where do you work?

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Akron Police Department.

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You work with the police department.

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Just in order that we don't add to or subtract from your account of what you saw at 1.30

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this morning.

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Would you start in pretty much as you were going up the boulevard there and give me a

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full detail account of everything you saw and as much detail as you can bring into it?

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Well, it was approximately 1.30 a.m. in the morning and we just cleared a call at Triplett

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Auto Reckon and we were heading east on Triplett.

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And approximately Triplett and Woodstock, I made the comment to my partner, I'd seen

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this object a ways back and I didn't say anything or even think of it.

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It appeared to be a harvest moon that I thought.

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I made a statement to my partner that look at the large harvest moon I had.

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And he said, that's no moon.

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He said the moon's to the rear of us.

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I said, well, it's got to be the moon.

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I said, what else could it be?

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And we were continuing on and by that time we'd gotten rather close.

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I estimate maybe 200 yards and the object was hanging down in a little valley like behind

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some trees in the church and the object appeared to be as big or bigger than the church itself.

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And about that time the object just seemed to diminish in size.

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I mean, staying parallel with the ground and just started getting smaller.

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And all of a sudden it just was a southeast of us at the time we first sighted it.

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And it just veered off in a northeast direction and that the was rising rapidly.

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I mean, very fast. Now, did you feel that it diminished in size before it started?

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Right. It diminished in size. Like I say, it was huge when we first saw it.

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And it just seemed like it was just on ground. It was just going away from us even before it gained altitude.

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Yeah. And all of a sudden it just veered. It was going more.

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Well, it was just going straight east when it was starting to get smaller.

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Then it veered northeast. That's when it started making its rise into the sky.

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Then we estimate around Canton and Tripler or Canton, Albrecht.

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There it just took a new east course.

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And we followed it out Canton to Albrecht and down Albrecht.

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And we got down there around Hygro Boulevard and Albrecht and it managed to just disappeared into the sky for about all five seconds.

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Then it appeared way out beyond Magador, Southfield, out in that area for a matter of two, three seconds.

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I mean, it didn't come down close to earth and was still way up and then it just disappeared again.

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And that's the last we saw. Now, you say we who was the other person was John Beckett.

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He was driving the car. And to the best of your knowledge, were there any other possible observers to the well, there was a fellow.

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Like I said, we were going up to the Ohio station, can the triplet to get our radio heater fixed.

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And when we saw it, we were going to go up there and get him, you know, to see it through.

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But if it was going to hold still, you know, like it was, but it didn't remain in one place.

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It just took off. But when we first come upon it, it was stationary.

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I believe there was some mention on the radio this morning of the State Highway Patrol having seen something also.

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Yes. State Highway Patrolman stated he observed the same type of an object in Sawyer, which is only three miles from the scene where we first, you know, decided it.

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Did he pinpoint the time that's about the same?

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Yeah, he happened approximately five or ten minutes before we, you know, before you saw before we saw it.

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Yeah, he saw it first and he observed for about five minutes out there and then he lost it.

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And we saw it over here on triplet and we called in the radio dispatch and asked them to check this airport.

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If they had any sightings in our dispatcher call back and said that the airports hadn't received any.

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But the State Highway Patrolman had spotted something he said at eight and two twenty four, which was right in that area because the patrolman said that he had seen it in Sawyer.

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Would he pulled off two twenty four there and observed it for five minutes?

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He said it was it was moving because he fixed the position of it with a light telephone pole or something out there.

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Now, I think we have missed some of the detail of the shape of the object in your first saw and the coloration and then the changing of the shape and its color.

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No, we first saw it. It just looked like the bottom half of a huge harvest moon that was the top half was covered by cloud layer.

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And it was very brilliant. A gorgeous gold color and sort of as it was fading away,

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it's appeared to have sort of a waffle like design on it.

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And as it was disappearing into the sky, it just had the appearance of two saucers put together.

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You're speaking of this waffle like design was that a grid type thing?

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Yeah. And this was a demarked by dark lines.

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Yeah. Like I say, the color of the object itself is an orangeish gold or yellowish gold brilliant color.

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And the lines on there seem to be sort of an orangeish brown color.

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I mean, not very vivid. I mean, you know, you could see them sort of set off, but there was this cross crossing effect to me.

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It appeared like, yeah. Could you tell me approximately how number, how many vertical lines and horizontal lines were in this grid?

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I don't know. It's a three or was it ten or a hundred?

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No, it was a hundred.

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I'd say maybe it were from five to ten in that area.

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Yeah. I mean, they were spaced.

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It worked. It worked. It's real distinct. I mean, you know, you've got this question.

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We saw it an instant there and it was, you know, going away from us.

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And like I say, when we first saw it, we didn't think what he even think of anything of sort of, you know, what it could be.

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They say we was thinking it was a moon or a blimp or something, you know, coming across there all lit up.

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And, you know, if you see something, you could observe it and know what you're looking at it.

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The first time you kind of look for detail. Well, this thing here just was moving away.

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Like I say, it was covered by trees and that fortunately, there's no leaves in the trees.

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You can see, you know, through the trees. Now, it has gained altitude.

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Now, how about the coloration?

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Well, it was gained the altitude before it disappeared.

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It was just brilliant white, brilliant white.

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And how long do you estimate it took you to drive from your original point of observation?

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Now, you suggested this morning that it did get larger to you for a little period as you're close to.

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Yeah. And then from that point that you first saw until you hit Canton Road, where it hit the clouds.

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It was about a minute, probably from the time I first saw it until the last sighting of it.

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I mean, the whole episode probably took no more than a minute.

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I can see where you wouldn't get too much time for detailed observation.

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But a minute's a long time when you're looking at something.

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If it had just disappeared straight out, and that was it, you know, we could see it.

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But the thing was not when it started veering off.

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And you could just see it going across the sky there in the northeast direction.

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And I could say out around Canton Triplett and that area, General vicinity, it just took a easterly direction.

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And that's over the weather conditions at the time.

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So it was clear it wasn't raining. It rained about a hour.

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They were from half hour to an hour after the sighting. But at the time it was clear there was heavy cloud covering broken clouds.

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Yeah. As a moon, you could see the moon, you know, be visible in the clouds with your body.

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Now, you did see both the object and the moon separately.

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Yeah. I didn't see the moon at the time. I was watching the object.

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I told my buddy with the moon ahead and he said, that's not the moon because he said that the moon is to the rear of us.

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And he looked back and he saw the moon behind us to the north, west, early direction.

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He did that. Yeah. And we did after the sighting and everything, we did see the moon.

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And the moon was at the time would have been, like I say, to our northwest.

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The moon was a sort of a whiteish color.

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It was nowhere any even close to the color of the object that we saw.

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It was like I told this gentleman here about a third of the size of this object.

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It did appear to stand still all one time.

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Well, it actually to me it appeared like it was going to take a while from us.

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There was no other traffic on the road at all.

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And when we came up there, it appeared to be just in an emotionalist position until we started getting closer.

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And then it started going away from us. And the faster we got, then it just shot up into the sky.

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And it did suddenly speed up. Yeah.

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Or give us a tremendous acceleration.

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It didn't break up into any parts or explode or this type of thing. Give off any smoke.

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No. No.

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Leave any visible trail. Well, you mean like a tail or something?

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No. Do the drop anything? No.

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Change brightness. Well, no, just went from that orangey gold color from the on close to the earth there until it got up in the did change shape from the half moon scallop top to the double disk shape.

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Yeah. Do you remember if there was any wind at the time?

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Strong wind. No, I don't think it was windy out there.

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You observed the object at all times through the windshield. You didn't stop the car.

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We stopped. Can we got it all broken out of the car after we'd lost it last time?

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But they never came back. But no time did you observe it outside of the car. No.

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I say. Use no binoculars. No.

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Was the object fuzzy or blurred or sharply outlined?

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I'd say it was quite clear. You know, sharp, sharp, the lines of shape.

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I guess it didn't just a big ball there, you know, like the sun or something.

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And have a lot of fuzziness around the edges. It was distinct.

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The outer edges was quite distinct.

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Seem to be self-loomness. Yeah.

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Let's see. There's nothing around there to cause any reflection.

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I mean, if that great magnitude because it's a residential area and they just got all back on the other.

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You know, a coin will cover the moon. If you hold a nickel up like this at arm's length, you can't see the moon beyond it.

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Actually, if you were to hold your hands out like this at the closest point, this visualize this.

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How wide a spread would you have to make to cover the object at your closest point?

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In our closest point. You know, if you're looking through your hands like this, I'd say.

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Right like that. It wouldn't take that much area.

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It was huge. You see, at 200 yards, if you were to expand this, it was huge.

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I'm not kidding. It was. And how much of the church would you say that would take up in the bottom swing?

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Yeah. Well, it was. It was above the church. Yes.

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But it was as big or bigger than the church at the time we saw it in the church.

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This is amazing. Hey, because it was huge. I mean, it wasn't just a little little spot.

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I mean, it was huge. I mean, this church, I don't know if you're familiar with the church. It's a good sized church.

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Yes. I mean, it's not one of that great big church, but it's a good sized church.

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And this object was beyond beyond the trees in this little wooded area.

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And it was like you say, if the object was in front of it, you could see again.

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But it's behind it is still as big or bigger than the church.

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Were there any conventional aircraft in the area at the time? You didn't say there was nothing.

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Now, it was no air if it was some type of an aircraft.

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It was none I have ever seen.

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Now, if you were to compare the speed of the object with a piston, a prop job, a light plane, a jet or faster,

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how would you compare it? Well, as it took off?

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Well, I've never seen anything accelerate like that.

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Like I say, we were coming into the bin when it started moving away from us and my buddy started going faster around the bender.

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By the time we got down the vial tire, it was just about completely out of sight.

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And it just stayed at that level. It seemed like it just got up to a certain level and stayed there.

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Then I know it. It disappeared when it came back out.

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Whether it just went through a cloud layer or something, I don't know whether it went higher and came back down again.

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I don't know either. But it disappeared there for five seconds.

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And it came back in the view again and it disappeared entirely.

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I will say nearby we have the Muni Airport, the arrows of space, a good year aircraft and for us up from dock.

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Have you never seen any other objects of an unidentified nature?

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Well, no, just these spotlights, you know, things that they put up on a certain night.

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You know, we've the wife and I, we've cited things.

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You see the paper where I got my paper. Yeah.

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But I've never seen anything that.

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I've ever. Well, shooting.

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Have you been called today by the Air Force or federal state county?

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No, I mean, newspapers are the ones that's called.

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The big general did call you. Well, the big in general was at the station where we came in this morning.

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All right. They were there to meet you. And tonight is a woman from the plane dealer called and talked to me.

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And this morning before I.

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Well, talk to you this morning and talk to the BKR and the BHL.

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There's only two radio stations. It's a lot of interest.

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It's amazing. The amount of interest.

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Did you hear the North, the full time program the other night? No, I.

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Our television set was there about a week ago.

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We haven't had a TV set.

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As I talked with the captain at the station this morning,

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he told me that they weren't logging UFO reports on there.

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We're holding them on individual cards. What did they mean by this?

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Well, see, we got over in a new station.

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They've got a new radio system and they've got a new setup.

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Now before I don't know. I haven't been in there or see it, but they used to have just a big sheet and headlines on it.

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You know, like a ledger sheet or something. They put the car, the time, the reason for the.

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You know, the call, what type of a call them and you call back, they put the disposition and that was on a big sheet.

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A lot. Yeah. Now I understand they've got cards with all that on there.

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And each time a car gets a call, they take that card and they put the time they get to call the date, the reason for it, the car number,

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who called the party calling for what reason, where they're calling from and all that on one card.

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And I guess that some way is going to be filed according to cars or districts.

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I don't know. Like I said, I haven't seen their setup.

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They're in a row. They have changed. Yeah, they have changed the setup down there.

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But as far as logging, I don't know.

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Or putting on cards. I don't know.

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Some time ago, I understood that they had assigned a man to handle UFO calls.

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Do you know about that? No, I don't know.

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This woman called from the plane dealer today.

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She said, Kate and Kent State couple, did you talk to them? No.

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She was saying that she said, are you familiar with the Kent State couple that cited this object Friday night in North Hill Hall?

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Yes. We have about eight or 10 calls on this. I didn't.

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I was thinking you were talking about last night. No, this was Friday.

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Yes, Friday. Friday night, we have a great many reports.

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The and in fact, we've called practically every airport within a hundred miles to see if there were any advertising planes in the area.

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And to the best of our knowledge, so are not. But it seemed to be a disc shaped object with a fast rotating room of lights around the perimeter.

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One man said he was very close to it and he has done a pilot and could identify almost anything.

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And he said that was nothing that he could identify. That's right.

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There's nothing I've ever seen before.

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Well, one more question. I suppose since the information here is pretty much general knowledge, you probably have no objection to our using it also.

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The ways which we use it is, for instance, we have a monthly meeting and quite often people who have seen them come down and share what they've seen with us.

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As Dale Sparta, he came down and shared. And then we have a little monthly bulletin that we put out has a circulation of around 200 now, around 600 on the mailing list.

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But we don't very often cover the whole mailing list.

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And occasionally we have other public education means in which we use it.

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Do you have any objection to this? No.

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Very fine. Do you have any questions?

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Just like I was just like you're going to go into a little bit more detail on several of these.

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The weather. Now you mentioned clouds. Are you familiar with the classification of clouds?

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Well, you know, but a large fluffy type or a high, very dark type.

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I say it was dark out and all I know is there was a low ceiling in the night.

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I mean, you know, with no illumination is pretty hard to distinguish the clouds and the moon was in and out, you know, during the night.

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Before this until raining. And after that, the cloud coverage at it, you know, completely covered up.

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But they were dark, very dark clouds and they were rather low.

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Like I said, when the moon would come out in their clear spot, you could see the clouds and they were rather low.

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Could you give me a rough estimate on the percentage of the sky that was covered by clouds?

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Five cans.

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Well, we can get the information from the weather.

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I wouldn't.

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I mean, I'd like to map from you, giving your locations and angles for where you are.

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The direction you observe these from. And if you change position at all, did you change position?

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Well, most of the time we were heading east because triple Boulevard runs east.

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And so you come to Canne road, then we had to make a left, which would have been north.

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And we went one block and we made a right, which is east again and headed directly east from Altrecht.

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There at the church, you have almost a 30 degree angle turn curve there.

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Yeah. But it's when it straightens out, you're still heading east.

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I mean, they're like this part of triple Boulevard is heading straight east and you make a sort of an S turn like this.

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And go straight on east. So actually you're continuing on, you know, the east or the direction.

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The West curve there where you head north and come back east of it.

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But it's only just a small turn there.

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Did you have to lean forward and try to anytime to look out the window?

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You know, even when it was going because it was going out and away from us like this.

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And we could learn a partner was driving and he he could see it all the time that I saw it.

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And he knew without the lean and not looking up or anything like that.

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But you just showed me that your I was that about the approximate angle you when it was taken off.

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Yeah. I mean, like when we first saw it was to our right or southeast of us.

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But then when it was going off in the sky, it was approximately that angle like that.

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I mean, that's about all I have Larry. I'd like to get some angles if possible.

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No, you feel you'd have to be out there on the spot to get things.

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How's why you're going to work at 11. Don't you?

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Yeah. Well, we start by time.

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Actually, we were supposed to be on the 1130 by time we got out of the station.

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Now it's about quarter 12. We changed out of time.

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Now we used to change out in our districts. Now we changed out of time,

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which holds you up sometimes from the quarter to 12 to 12 o'clock,

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depending on the roll call, you know, and information that they're putting out there.

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So sometimes it's after 12 before we get out in our respective districts.

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Thank you. He was wondering about was one possibly he could maybe catch you in the area to get the angle.

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So the train will be out there all night.

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Like I said, midnight to eight in the morning.

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I've got a schedule myself around 11 o'clock. You're not driving.

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I mean, I was wondering if you've got me out. I get my car.

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Well, no, I know you're not driving here. But you do have a car.

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Yes. Do you suppose you could?

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Do you have a present schedule for tomorrow morning?

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Well, I can get up in the morning.

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All right.

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Now, I mean, do you feel you want to pick this up tonight or maybe another?

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Well, we could do it.

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Oh, I think so. I mean, it's not a prep.

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Well, I'm off Wednesday, Tuesday night. I'm off Tuesday night.

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Well, it's tomorrow night. Yeah, we're off tomorrow. Tuesday.

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Well, maybe you can make arrangements. Yes.

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Well, sure. We can.

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Although I do have equipment now.

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Yeah, we'll do it tonight. You will be in the area, you say.

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Well, hello for sightings that.

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Yes, he has. So I just don't like to do it.

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Just kind of walk through the steps and go through the motions you actually went to and observing this.

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Oh, I see. And then I have a compass and they invite the major altitude.

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And so if he could pin the exact moments of observation along with about three or four other people

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observing it from different directions, he could just about tell you how high it was and what have you.

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Well, I see.

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Oh, yeah.

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If you want to meet us out there, you met him out there.

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Yeah. You know, in the cruiser.

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And so what about manners out there?

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You're going there?

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We do. We're not allowed to stop until after one o'clock.

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New rules. Oh, yeah.

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They give us a list of about 10, 15 things we're not allowed to do now.

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Well, some time. They're starting to get a little chicken down there.

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But we can't close election time.

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Isn't it? Well, that imposes levy coming up.

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Yeah. And then they get a new station down there.

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And they're, you know, this comes up every so often.

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Oh, we're just like in the service. You know, they got a key portion.

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And the same one. Yeah.

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But we just we just grab a beer.

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And we know it's going on last for a while and things will slack off.

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But yeah, we can meet you.

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You have a regular spot. You have to report in or something.

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Yeah, we got it. Like I said, we got to be at the station about 1130.

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And a quarter 12 to 12 anywhere from then to there were relieved, you know,

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to go out in our district. You got to give us time.

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Actually, I'd say 1230 would just, you know,

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would give us enough time to get out in our district and clear the station and

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meet, you know, we can meet you at the.

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Yeah, we can call them at Wickey office if they would have a call right at that time.

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Yeah. You might find yourself writing a call.

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We might check and do it by the clock.

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Well, what we could do is we can just call a service and tell them we're going to be

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out of service, you know, for a few minutes.

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And they can, you know, hold the call.

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How about if I meet you tonight at 1230 at the control tower parking lot?

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Okay. Right in front of the control tower there.

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That they are for it. Right.

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And then if you're delayed, when you're having a coffee or something.

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Okay.

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If you get there earlier, or if we can get there earlier, we'll come by there.

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And then maybe make it earlier.

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Watch how I be there by 12.

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I'll be there plenty of time.

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Okay. Well, as soon as we can, we'll come by by there.

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And if you're there at 12 and we're out there at 12, we'll.

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Thank you.

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I'm pressing for us to get a taped interview with this truck driver over the truck between

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Parkersburg and Marietta.

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Oh, you're on that case.

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Yes.

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Well, you do this on the side.

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I mean, there's just.

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Oh, yeah.

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I'll be there.

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This is not off.